VARIOUS MODES TO CRACK 498A & RELATED CASES:
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METHOD 1. FOLLOWING THE TRIAL & PROVING INNOCENCE.
Advantages:
1. Text book method following judicial system to get the formal acquittal order.
2. Post acquittal, we can file perjury U/s 340, malicious prosecution & defamation suit, which will destroy the 498a family completely.
3. Scope for financial compensation thru defamation suit.
Disadvantages:
1.Time consuming; have to be patient with great Indian Judiciary's efficiency.
2.Will take anything between 2 7 Yrs.
3.Need to cope up half baked lawyers from both the sides.
METHOD 2. FILING COUNTER-CASES AGAINST 498a FAMILY.
Advantages:
1. By giving the same medicine to the opponents, 498a case may get over in short time.(DP3, Threatening, Cheating, 406 etc)
2. Indirect pressure can be created to the opponents, so that they will not not time to harass you more.
Disadvantages:
1.Very delicate in nature. Needs to do lot of home work & legal analysis, before retaliating with counter-cases.
2.Very Costly affair & time consuming.
3.Counter-cases may back fire, if not launched properly.
4.Some counter-cases may be of cooked nature, which will be a "misuse of law" & against our SIFF policies.
5. Has to deal with lawyers & will be another headache.
METHOD 3. COMPLAINING TO HIGHER AUTHORITIES:
Advantages:
1.Taking the case details based on merit,to higher authorities & Officers such as Human rights, DGP, Collector, Commissioner, Home Secretary, Income Tax Dept. etc, will solve the case in shorter time.
2.Cheaper mode & may close the cases in shorter time duration.(1- 6 Months)
3.Can handle without much legal aid & lawyers.
4. All the cases shall be closed in ONE GO. (498a, Divorce, Maintenance, DV etc)
Disadvantages:
1.This mode will be applicable based on 498a family & opponents profile & background.
2.Complaints have to be placed immediately after the threats & cases.
3.Government machinery may not work with expected efficiency, which may delay the process.
4. USING RTI APPLICATIONS:
Advantages:
1.Cheapest mode & consumes relatively lesser time to close the case.(4 12 Months)
2.We can screw the 498a family royally, with this "Legal Cruelty" tool.
3.May cause irretrievable damage to the opponents, apart from closure of 498a case & other related cases.
4.Can handle without legal aid & lawyers.
5.No limit & can fire numerous RTIs based on the opponents' profile.
6. Can be used against POLICE & JUDICIAL SYSTEM to create indirect pressure by exposing their law violations & atrocities.
Disadvantages:
1.498a family members or witnesses, needs to be government jobs & related activities.
2.Needs to cope up with time delay for RTI replies from govt. departments & information commission response for appeals.
3.Government machinery may not work with expected efficiency.
4.Very indirect method of attacking the opponents.
5. Needs lot of brainstorming before drafting RTI queries, to hit the Bulls' Eye.
Courtesy: RKV, SIFM-Chennai
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Tuesday, September 07, 2010
VARIOUS MODES TO CRACK 498A & RELATED CASES
Sunday, July 13, 2008
Counter cases during and after the case against one
And here comes the mother of all 'Cracks' for this bar of 195 Cr.PC , see below the links for the landmark judgement of Marwah Vs Marwah(Citation 2005 (4) SCC 370), I have used this in my counter cases(under sections 209, 211, 195, 197, 460, 463, and whatnot, even I lost count). Download this judgement here.
See a post explaining all this: http://bok498a.blogspot.com/2007/05/arrive-with-guns-blazing-counters-quash.html, actually sit and read the whole blog as I suggested initially :), it will serve u good, take my word on it. See my case details and the killer thoughts behind planning a counter-offensive(our military bretheren must be keen on knowing these counter-surveilance mode thoughts) at http://f1.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/wPl1SANrqCIhMSTl0U7w520JpBhhfMhdPUY1lvs3qyneu0J04Xsc7h2Aox4lpxErTKuroEt2HHsw2lfDZTUAAw/Counter%20Charge%20498a.pdf (also attached, this is an ealrier version so it has some factual errors, like the explanation of Cr.PC 340, is wrongly refering to that of IPC 340, will correct it soon and re-upload/blog for posterity)
For Dowry Prohibition section, 3(giving dowry being punishable) please see the following links
Nyayayodha's blog
******
Hi Gokul ji,
I was just reading CrPC-Section 195 and it says that
"No court shall take cognizance - Of any offence punishable under any of the following sections of the Indian Penal Code (45 of 1860), namely, sections 193 to 196 (both inclusive), 199, 200, 205 to 211 (both inclusive) and 228, when such offence is alleged to have been committed in, or in relation to, any proceeding in any court"
Thanks & Regards
Jaspreet Singh
On 7/10/08, Gokul P.Rwrote:
I am mentioning below some IPC sections which can be generally used to file cases against the wife's side. The is RIPE NOW, GO FOR IT. When u r planning for counter offenses, read the posts in http://bok498a.blogspot.com/ which gives u pragmatic insights to dealing with court system, advocates and the Police, theory may not work, but insights coupled with consultations will.
S.191 :Giving false evidence+ S.340(1) of CrPC for Perjury @ Family/Magistrate Court
matter
S.209 : Dishonest claim
S.211 : False charge of offence made with intent to injure
S.306 : Abetment of Suicide
S.361 : For child - Kidnapping from lawful guardianship
S.378,380,381,382 :Theft
S.383 : Extortion
S.402 : Dacoity (Cognisable, Non-bailable and Non-compundable- just like 498a :)
S.406 : Criminal Breach of Trust
S.463 : Forgery
S.499: Defamation
S.506&507: Criminal Intimidation
Sections which u can check with ur advocate(I dont remember the IPC section offhand for these crimes) - Threatening, Abbetment of crime, these may be referring to a period before even your wife filed cases against you.
Some other sections of IPC helpful for husband side:
182 False information, with intent to cause public servant to use his lawful power to the injury of another person
191 Giving false evidence
192 Fabricating false evidence
195A Threatening any person to
give false evidence
196 Using evidence known to be false
197 Issuing or signing false certificate
198 Using as true a certificate known to be false
199 False statement made in declaration which is by law
receivable as evidence
200 Using as true such declaration knowing it to be false
201 Causing disappearance of evidence of offence, or
giving false information to screen offender
202 Intentional omission to give information of offence by person bound to inform
203 Giving false information respecting an offence commited
204 destruction of document to prevent its production as evidence
205 False personation for purpose of act or proceeding in suit or prosecution there are
more
Regards
Gokul
Buddy Aawrote: Hello All,
i am working in Indian Army and my brother has been harassed by 498a .
After getting b-report/final report in the charge sheet can put
counter cases like miss use of 498a ...?
1. Is this right time (after B-Report) to put counter cases of miss
use of 498a? or its too late now ?
2. Defamation case ?
3.182 IPC ?
Please list all the counter cases for 498a and relevent cases .
Also I would like to know all these counter cases are civil/criminal ?
Please give me some more details how register all these cases and
what needs to prepared ,i don't want to put any false cases and then put myself in trouble......if any one has done this please share
experiences. .....etc
I don't want to teach a lesson to 498a wife, I would like to seek for
justice and fair for my brother who have been legally terrorised by 498a
and 498a wife.....Etc
Please send me the quite capable with very good reputation advocate in Hyderabad.
Please help
regards,
Buddy
See a post explaining all this: http://bok498a.blogspot.com/2007/05/arrive-with-guns-blazing-counters-quash.html
For Dowry Prohibition section, 3(giving dowry being punishable) please see the following links
Following is the link for section for tortured husbands(needs you to register in this site and be logged in) :-
Following is the link to Sample DP3 application :
Hi Gokul ji,
I was just reading CrPC-Section 195 and it says that
"No court shall take cognizance - Of any offence punishable under any of the following sections of the Indian Penal Code (45 of 1860), namely, sections 193 to 196 (both inclusive), 199, 200, 205 to 211 (both inclusive) and 228, when such offence is alleged to have been committed in, or in relation to, any proceeding in any court"
Thanks & Regards
Jaspreet Singh
On 7/10/08, Gokul P.R
I am mentioning below some IPC sections which can be generally used to file cases against the wife's side. The is RIPE NOW, GO FOR IT. When u r planning for counter offenses, read the posts in http://bok498a.blogspot.com/ which gives u pragmatic insights to dealing with court system, advocates and the Police, theory may not work, but insights coupled with consultations will.
S.191 :Giving false evidence+ S.340(1) of CrPC for Perjury @ Family/Magistrate Court
matter
S.209 : Dishonest claim
S.211 : False charge of offence made with intent to injure
S.306 : Abetment of Suicide
S.361 : For child - Kidnapping from lawful guardianship
S.378,380,381,382 :Theft
S.383 : Extortion
S.402 : Dacoity (Cognisable, Non-bailable and Non-compundable- just like 498a :)
S.406 : Criminal Breach of Trust
S.463 : Forgery
S.499: Defamation
S.506&507: Criminal Intimidation
Sections which u can check with ur advocate(I dont remember the IPC section offhand for these crimes) - Threatening, Abbetment of crime, these may be referring to a period before even your wife filed cases against you.
Some other sections of IPC helpful for husband side:
182 False information, with intent to cause public servant to use his lawful power to the injury of another person
191 Giving false evidence
192 Fabricating false evidence
195A Threatening any person to
give false evidence
196 Using evidence known to be false
197 Issuing or signing false certificate
198 Using as true a certificate known to be false
199 False statement made in declaration which is by law
receivable as evidence
200 Using as true such declaration knowing it to be false
201 Causing disappearance of evidence of offence, or
giving false information to screen offender
202 Intentional omission to give information of offence by person bound to inform
203 Giving false information respecting an offence commited
204 destruction of document to prevent its production as evidence
205 False personation for purpose of act or proceeding in suit or prosecution there are
more
Regards
Gokul
Buddy Aa
i am working in Indian Army and my brother has been harassed by 498a .
After getting b-report/final report in the charge sheet can put
counter cases like miss use of 498a ...?
1. Is this right time (after B-Report) to put counter cases of miss
use of 498a? or its too late now ?
2. Defamation case ?
3.182 IPC ?
Please list all the counter cases for 498a and relevent cases .
Also I would like to know all these counter cases are civil/criminal ?
Please give me some more details how register all these cases and
what needs to prepared ,i don't want to put any false cases and then put myself in trouble......if any one has done this please share
experiences. .....etc
I don't want to teach a lesson to 498a wife, I would like to seek for
justice and fair for my brother who have been legally terrorised by 498a
and 498a wife.....Etc
Please send me the quite capable with very good reputation advocate in Hyderabad.
Please help
regards,
Buddy
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Wednesday, June 18, 2008
First striker's advantage- A live saving option
If we leave our inhibitions and only go by survivalinstincts- we will strike first(when we are under threat of a false case by the wife's side), but alas we are prisoners of our ownshackles(inhibitions, emotions, etc.).
Its not easy to strike first- my family did not strike first since wealso thought "How can a girl's family ruin the girl's marriage byfiling false cases on husband&family". That too when the girls own relative(who knew their mentality too well, and could see the falsecases coming) actually hinted us to strike first, but at that point we never thought it was actually a life saving hint.But after experiencing these things for the last 5 years personallyand through others cases, I really believe that striking first is one of the most fruitful actions, if the situation and capability of the victim warrants it.
I have seen this strategy winning hands down in 2cases which I know closely.Now what else do we want other than the clarity of mind!. When one issure that its a war looming over, one has to break the shackles ofemotions and fight single-mindedly- for the WIN. Of course there areother ways of peace, try them if they apply to your situation.
I just felt that its time for this strategy to become open(let all pre-498a try it), what better way to introduce it in yahoo group. But the tragedy is that even then very less number of people will trythis sure-shot strategy(because of fear, forgiveness, wait&watchpropensity, etc.). At the same time shrewd guys from the oppositecamp will take note. Its always a trade-off isn't it, like life.
I am of the belief that we should flood the courts with firststrikes, this should not remain a phone line secret anymore. This kind of extremism is now warranted since normal defence is not working(will yield only years of painful defence). Last but not the least:this is not a secret for legally aware persons, for them its thefirst option :) . So let there be fire-works, we need all pre-498aguys to think on this lines, fire at will.All helplines to take note too. If in pre-498a, let them strike first.
So I would recommend a counter offensive stretegy, if a first strike is suitable in case of any pre-498a case(using IPC 503, 389, , 341, etc as the case may be. Refer Indian Penal Code sections at : http://www.vakilno1.com/bareacts/IndianPenalCode/indianpenalcode.htm )
regards
Gokul
--- In saveindianfamily@yahoogroups.com, Virag wrote:>>
Agreed, Offense is the best form of defense, but there is a majorrisk> involved here. The question that comes here is, "If I initiatelegal action,> they will definitely file 498A" and normally everyone wants toavoid legal> hassles as far as possible until it hits them.>> And this mindset only has allowed the misuse to grow.>> But what people fail to realize is that a 498a type girl willanyways file a> 498a and in that case, the first legal action by the husband willdefinitely> help.
--- In saveindianfamily@yahoogroups.com, Gokul wrote:>> Hi HubbyinTrouble, As we discussed in our telecon, take the first striker's advantage if you are upto it(I have not seen people who are willing to take this risk, but I see that in you, so my advise is nothing else but GO FOR THE KILL). This is not a impetuous advise as some may think, this is the method which I have seen working in 2 of the cases, where the girls side had to run with their pants down Of course one should do an analysis of the competition, if they are advocates and love fighting cases, and thrives on them, then u may have to rethink - but an average greedy girl's family will be crushed with the kind of evidences Hubby in Trouble has with the use of IPC 503(Criminal Intimidation) and 389(Extortion threat) + whatever IPC sections applicable in one's case(hubby in trouble has a chance to use manhandling too, from what he told me). This coupled with some more finer points which we can discuss over phone will brighten your chances of sending the opposote party packing. Discuss this with Suresh too for his inputs. So if one has the situation like this and can take the risk of being the first to reach the court, the chances for him is better(conditions as above). This is a classic case of "Offence in the best Defense" . This should be the new option which has to be emphasised when counselling pre-498a members - GO FOR THE KILL(if the person is willing, and situation permitting) Warm Regards,
Gokul, http://gokul.go.to, 9821414336(Mumbai)Editor - www.siftimes.com , Director- www.pifngo.infoProtect Indian Family: "For Family Harmony.. Against Legal Terrorism" Re: My Wife Called Me Yesterday and Threatened Me & My Mother!!! Posted by: "r_agr1" r_agr1@yahoo.com r_agr1 Sat Jun 14, 2008 4:33 am (PDT) Once she files a 498a case. Take a anticapatory bail and then file a private complain under IPC 503, 389.For criminal intimidation.Don't do it right now . Keep your mouth shut. other wise she will be too severe on her complain accuse of physical assault. Keep on gather evidences.RegardsRahul
--- In saveindianfamily@ yahoogroups. com, "bharati8000" wrote:>>
we had raised this issue times and again to helpage that dowry laws > are being used as an abusive tool and they should raise their voice > aainst it as even per WHO elder abuse is happening due to the 498a > laws > > Helpage are the one who run elders helpline in police station and > She can contact the helpline in the police station run by her own > organisation.> My mohter had absolutely no help from them . See if you mother can > get better help from helpage. > >
--- In saveindianfamily@ yahoogroups. com, "hubby_in_trouble" > wrote:> >> >
I had taken advise of all my SIFF brothers and sent an RTI to theGovernment Housing Board asking for all details of the propertywhich has been built through my funds from my NRI account by mywife. My wife on several occasions had declined to show me anypapers regarding this house and loan ammount she was paying statingthat she has all rights over my monies and as a wife she need nothave to me accounts of the same. Therefore I sent RTI to the housingboard last week asking for details.
Yesterday she called me and threatened me on my phone of direconsequences and also threatened that she will put my mother and mein jail. She used all sort of foul language and she talked for morethan 8 mits. I was very calm during this entire episode and kept mycool. The whole conversation is on tape now.
Now how to safe guard my mother who is a paralysis patient on theroad to recovery, who is 72 years of age, who is well placed insociety as a Senior Citizen, who is a active social worker andhonaarary secretary to a Orphanange, who is a Adhikari at DignityFoundation for Senior Citizen, who is also a Secretatry for Old AgeHome. CAN I APPLY FOR A AB WITH THIS RECORD????? PLEASE HELP ME BYANSWERING THIS.AFTER SAFEGUARDING MY MOTHER, PLEASE SEND SUGGESTIONS AS TO HOW TOPROCEEDE FURTHER. I WANT TO STRIKE HER BEFORE SHE HITS ME AND I WANTTO DO THIS WHEN THE IRON IS HOT.
FOR ONCE LET THE HUSBAND START THE SHOW ON A FALSE WIFE!!!! PLEASEADVISE!!!!
Can I put a counter charge using 156 Sec 3 of CrPc??? Can I file anFIR on Criminal Intimidation under the IPC????? At least this way Ican make her run from Pillar to Post before she can even think ofwhat hit her.Please advise.If she files on a later stage can I counter it under section 482,her FIR saying that it is a counter blast to my RTI which has puther in a tight position????? Please advise as to what steps should Itake now to do this?????? A 498a member on the forum enlightented meon this issue. I would appreciate if other members can send thierviews urgently to my email ID hubby_in_trouble
Its not easy to strike first- my family did not strike first since wealso thought "How can a girl's family ruin the girl's marriage byfiling false cases on husband&family". That too when the girls own relative(who knew their mentality too well, and could see the falsecases coming) actually hinted us to strike first, but at that point we never thought it was actually a life saving hint.But after experiencing these things for the last 5 years personallyand through others cases, I really believe that striking first is one of the most fruitful actions, if the situation and capability of the victim warrants it.
I have seen this strategy winning hands down in 2cases which I know closely.Now what else do we want other than the clarity of mind!. When one issure that its a war looming over, one has to break the shackles ofemotions and fight single-mindedly- for the WIN. Of course there areother ways of peace, try them if they apply to your situation.
I just felt that its time for this strategy to become open(let all pre-498a try it), what better way to introduce it in yahoo group. But the tragedy is that even then very less number of people will trythis sure-shot strategy(because of fear, forgiveness, wait&watchpropensity, etc.). At the same time shrewd guys from the oppositecamp will take note. Its always a trade-off isn't it, like life.
I am of the belief that we should flood the courts with firststrikes, this should not remain a phone line secret anymore. This kind of extremism is now warranted since normal defence is not working(will yield only years of painful defence). Last but not the least:this is not a secret for legally aware persons, for them its thefirst option :) . So let there be fire-works, we need all pre-498aguys to think on this lines, fire at will.All helplines to take note too. If in pre-498a, let them strike first.
So I would recommend a counter offensive stretegy, if a first strike is suitable in case of any pre-498a case(using IPC 503, 389, , 341, etc as the case may be. Refer Indian Penal Code sections at : http://www.vakilno1.com/bareacts/IndianPenalCode/indianpenalcode.htm )
regards
Gokul
--- In saveindianfamily@yahoogroups.com, Virag
Agreed, Offense is the best form of defense, but there is a majorrisk> involved here. The question that comes here is, "If I initiatelegal action,> they will definitely file 498A" and normally everyone wants toavoid legal> hassles as far as possible until it hits them.>> And this mindset only has allowed the misuse to grow.>> But what people fail to realize is that a 498a type girl willanyways file a> 498a and in that case, the first legal action by the husband willdefinitely> help.
--- In saveindianfamily@yahoogroups.com, Gokul wrote:>> Hi HubbyinTrouble, As we discussed in our telecon, take the first striker's advantage if you are upto it(I have not seen people who are willing to take this risk, but I see that in you, so my advise is nothing else but GO FOR THE KILL). This is not a impetuous advise as some may think, this is the method which I have seen working in 2 of the cases, where the girls side had to run with their pants down Of course one should do an analysis of the competition, if they are advocates and love fighting cases, and thrives on them, then u may have to rethink - but an average greedy girl's family will be crushed with the kind of evidences Hubby in Trouble has with the use of IPC 503(Criminal Intimidation) and 389(Extortion threat) + whatever IPC sections applicable in one's case(hubby in trouble has a chance to use manhandling too, from what he told me). This coupled with some more finer points which we can discuss over phone will brighten your chances of sending the opposote party packing. Discuss this with Suresh too for his inputs. So if one has the situation like this and can take the risk of being the first to reach the court, the chances for him is better(conditions as above). This is a classic case of "Offence in the best Defense" . This should be the new option which has to be emphasised when counselling pre-498a members - GO FOR THE KILL(if the person is willing, and situation permitting) Warm Regards,
Gokul, http://gokul.go.to, 9821414336(Mumbai)Editor - www.siftimes.com , Director- www.pifngo.infoProtect Indian Family: "For Family Harmony.. Against Legal Terrorism" Re: My Wife Called Me Yesterday and Threatened Me & My Mother!!! Posted by: "r_agr1" r_agr1@yahoo.com r_agr1 Sat Jun 14, 2008 4:33 am (PDT) Once she files a 498a case. Take a anticapatory bail and then file a private complain under IPC 503, 389.For criminal intimidation.Don't do it right now . Keep your mouth shut. other wise she will be too severe on her complain accuse of physical assault. Keep on gather evidences.RegardsRahul
--- In saveindianfamily@ yahoogroups. com, "bharati8000"
we had raised this issue times and again to helpage that dowry laws > are being used as an abusive tool and they should raise their voice > aainst it as even per WHO elder abuse is happening due to the 498a > laws > > Helpage are the one who run elders helpline in police station and > She can contact the helpline in the police station run by her own > organisation.> My mohter had absolutely no help from them . See if you mother can > get better help from helpage. > >
--- In saveindianfamily@ yahoogroups. com, "hubby_in_trouble" >
I had taken advise of all my SIFF brothers and sent an RTI to theGovernment Housing Board asking for all details of the propertywhich has been built through my funds from my NRI account by mywife. My wife on several occasions had declined to show me anypapers regarding this house and loan ammount she was paying statingthat she has all rights over my monies and as a wife she need nothave to me accounts of the same. Therefore I sent RTI to the housingboard last week asking for details.
Yesterday she called me and threatened me on my phone of direconsequences and also threatened that she will put my mother and mein jail. She used all sort of foul language and she talked for morethan 8 mits. I was very calm during this entire episode and kept mycool. The whole conversation is on tape now.
Now how to safe guard my mother who is a paralysis patient on theroad to recovery, who is 72 years of age, who is well placed insociety as a Senior Citizen, who is a active social worker andhonaarary secretary to a Orphanange, who is a Adhikari at DignityFoundation for Senior Citizen, who is also a Secretatry for Old AgeHome. CAN I APPLY FOR A AB WITH THIS RECORD????? PLEASE HELP ME BYANSWERING THIS.AFTER SAFEGUARDING MY MOTHER, PLEASE SEND SUGGESTIONS AS TO HOW TOPROCEEDE FURTHER. I WANT TO STRIKE HER BEFORE SHE HITS ME AND I WANTTO DO THIS WHEN THE IRON IS HOT.
FOR ONCE LET THE HUSBAND START THE SHOW ON A FALSE WIFE!!!! PLEASEADVISE!!!!
Can I put a counter charge using 156 Sec 3 of CrPc??? Can I file anFIR on Criminal Intimidation under the IPC????? At least this way Ican make her run from Pillar to Post before she can even think ofwhat hit her.Please advise.If she files on a later stage can I counter it under section 482,her FIR saying that it is a counter blast to my RTI which has puther in a tight position????? Please advise as to what steps should Itake now to do this?????? A 498a member on the forum enlightented meon this issue. I would appreciate if other members can send thierviews urgently to my email ID hubby_in_trouble
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Friday, May 11, 2007
Arrive with guns blazing-Counters, Quash, Dismissal(at Police, At court(before or after Chargesheet))
Subject: Counters, Quash, Dismissal(at Police, At court(before or after Chargesheet))
Hi All,
Option 1- Before chargesheet; You can give evidence to Police and ask for a report of dismissal(Type A report - no evidence to make a case of 498a, or Type B report- stating that the Allegations are false!, both of which happens only in rarest of rare cases(zero probability almost) , because police are shit scared of women org, women and generally won't burn their hands in these matters).
Next option 2->Before chargesheet is given by police to the court-Quash it at the same court(don't know the section of Cr.PC for this), or High court/Sessions(Cr.PC 482), showing major fractures in allegations which do not need trials, and are self-evident.
Next Option 3->Apply for dismissal after chargesheet is submitted to the court(Cr.PC 239(see the bottom of this post for explanation), Guptaji will elucidate about this beautifully :). The only motivation for waiting till chargesheet to get submitted in the court, is that after this the police cannot make the charges more deadlier against you(fudging it with more unfavourable charges), and since usually police can be bought by the other party and could be made to add more charges and unfavourable stuff in the chargesheet, if they decide to counter your attempts of Options1 & 2.
Counter cases can be filed at any time(though waiting till chargesheet is submitted to the court is advantageous in some ways). Though Advocates rarely recommend it or agree that this is even a possibility before a "verdict" on the 498a case is declared in full(possibly by Supreme court, if the other party decides to appeal until the Top court!). See this post for IPC sections which could be used in your counter cases, considering the facts of your specific case.
This is 'could' be just because 1) they do not want 'their' cases to end that "easily" and hence lose the opportunity to feed on your insecurities(with all respect to the good advocates here, if u feel that my observations are not constructive or right, please do correct me for the general good). 2) Another reason why advocates do not take initiatives for counter cases is because some of them are truly 'incapable' and ignorant about these matters in their rat race of "setting" and "greasing" kind of lowly ways of "practice" and their intellectually-bankrupt-to-the-core schools of thought!. 3) Another reason why lawyers do not seem to do any thing which can give you sure and swift results is that everyone is hand in glove with every other advocate, so they won't demolish the case of their loving counterparts who could be lawyer pals of the same court(you scratch my back, I scratch urs!- fraternity and emotional bonding issues!!!).
I am making it clear that I am not talking about good advocates of caliber and integrity, who if appointed will do wonders for your case- but I am yet to meet such an advocate in my sojourn of 4+ years in these torrid rapids.
Warm Regards,
Gokul - http://gokul.go.to, 9821414336(Mumbai)
PS: Cr.PC 239: When accused shall be discharged.- If, upon considering the police report and the documents sent with it under section 173 and making such examination, if any, of the accused as the Magistrate thinks necessary and after giving the prosecution and the accused an opportunity of being heard, the Magistrate considers the charge against the accused to be groundless, he shall discharge the accused, and record his reasons for so doing.
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need guidance Posted by: "yangaldaspk" Thu May 10, 2007 11:39 am (PST)
hi
i am 498a-ed. i got AB for my parents and sister and self. have proof that case is false. should i file 182 ipc or wait till chargesheet is failed.it is clear case of misuse of laws, and waste of time for police and courts.how can i proceed from here. can i file counter cases.
Hi All,
Option 1- Before chargesheet; You can give evidence to Police and ask for a report of dismissal(Type A report - no evidence to make a case of 498a, or Type B report- stating that the Allegations are false!, both of which happens only in rarest of rare cases(zero probability almost) , because police are shit scared of women org, women and generally won't burn their hands in these matters).
Next option 2->Before chargesheet is given by police to the court-Quash it at the same court(don't know the section of Cr.PC for this), or High court/Sessions(Cr.PC 482), showing major fractures in allegations which do not need trials, and are self-evident.
Next Option 3->Apply for dismissal after chargesheet is submitted to the court(Cr.PC 239(see the bottom of this post for explanation), Guptaji will elucidate about this beautifully :). The only motivation for waiting till chargesheet to get submitted in the court, is that after this the police cannot make the charges more deadlier against you(fudging it with more unfavourable charges), and since usually police can be bought by the other party and could be made to add more charges and unfavourable stuff in the chargesheet, if they decide to counter your attempts of Options1 & 2.
Counter cases can be filed at any time(though waiting till chargesheet is submitted to the court is advantageous in some ways). Though Advocates rarely recommend it or agree that this is even a possibility before a "verdict" on the 498a case is declared in full(possibly by Supreme court, if the other party decides to appeal until the Top court!). See this post for IPC sections which could be used in your counter cases, considering the facts of your specific case.
This is 'could' be just because 1) they do not want 'their' cases to end that "easily" and hence lose the opportunity to feed on your insecurities(with all respect to the good advocates here, if u feel that my observations are not constructive or right, please do correct me for the general good). 2) Another reason why advocates do not take initiatives for counter cases is because some of them are truly 'incapable' and ignorant about these matters in their rat race of "setting" and "greasing" kind of lowly ways of "practice" and their intellectually-bankrupt-to-the-core schools of thought!. 3) Another reason why lawyers do not seem to do any thing which can give you sure and swift results is that everyone is hand in glove with every other advocate, so they won't demolish the case of their loving counterparts who could be lawyer pals of the same court(you scratch my back, I scratch urs!- fraternity and emotional bonding issues!!!).
I am making it clear that I am not talking about good advocates of caliber and integrity, who if appointed will do wonders for your case- but I am yet to meet such an advocate in my sojourn of 4+ years in these torrid rapids.
Warm Regards,
Gokul - http://gokul.go.to, 9821414336(Mumbai)
PS: Cr.PC 239: When accused shall be discharged.- If, upon considering the police report and the documents sent with it under section 173 and making such examination, if any, of the accused as the Magistrate thinks necessary and after giving the prosecution and the accused an opportunity of being heard, the Magistrate considers the charge against the accused to be groundless, he shall discharge the accused, and record his reasons for so doing.
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need guidance Posted by: "yangaldaspk" Thu May 10, 2007 11:39 am (PST)
hi
i am 498a-ed. i got AB for my parents and sister and self. have proof that case is false. should i file 182 ipc or wait till chargesheet is failed.it is clear case of misuse of laws, and waste of time for police and courts.how can i proceed from here. can i file counter cases.
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