Counter cases after winning the original false case against you(498a, etc)

(this post was originally a reply to a SIFian who posted his win in the false 498a case against him, in the SIF yahoogroup, and wanted to know how to about filing counter cases and when, etc.,.)

Dear Cruise and all,

Where did your case get "dismissed" under what Cr.PC section(s)(discharge@lowercourt-239Cr.PC, quash@highcourt-482 or aquittal(which court)-on wat grounds on benefit of doubt, lack of proof or complaint/FIR found to be false). All these factors will decide ur next strategy. Read ur judgement thoroughly, write in here. 

If its an acquittal(as I think it is) at lower court, the appeal period is 30(or 60 days, just check the books/lawyers), if its a high court order the appeal period is more(90 days I think). You can file counter cases like defamation/malicious procecution/IPC211/189 and other sections etc which are in my blog post u r reffering to, immediately after the appeal period(starting from written order got in hand, to be safe).

Now if getting a divorce is ur priority it would be better that u appeal for divorce in cruelty grounds(citing the 498a judgement) and you could get a fast divorce(say 2-3 sittings, may be u can waive of the 6 months mandatory cooling period, since there's nothing to cool down, even though recently SC has insisted that this 6 months be strictly adhered to(for what, especially in this case)). You can file for divorce right now. 

After u get a divorce, but before the "period of limitation"(and 2nd marriage, if u r planning, since that's an energy-sink for sure, u may not even have time to remember ur name sometimes!) you can file the counter cases.

"Period of limitation(PoL)"(though delays beyond PoL may be condoned, don't depend on this) varies with respect to the respective counter case sections u r planning(and have grounds for it. ie a clean judgement in which complaint is termed as false directly or indirectly), for eg. If you are planning for defamation(criminal) ie. IPC 499, the period of limitation is 2 years(since the maximum punishment for defamation is 2 years: IPC 500. Punishment for defamation.-- Whoever defames another shall be punished with simple imprisonment for a term which may extend to two years, or with fine, or with both.) .

Refer http://bok498a.blogspot.com/2008/07/counter-cases-during-and-after-case.html for details on counter cases.

Make a strategy, and then fire at will, don't leave without guns blazing, turn all over rage, past and present, into energy to run and win the counters(justice-counters is what I call them), this is not just for you, this is for cleaning the pond we are living in, so do well, and do it right!.

PS: Almost all scenarios of a war against 498a/ 'Legal Terrorism' journey is addressed here: http://bit.ly/faqsif , the rest we have 1000s of web resources by SIFians themselves by now(blogs/sites/forums/articles/mail-archives), get knowledgeable yourselves, don't depend on even your father, let alone your bloody lawyer.... aim to win, and leave the rest to destiny. 

PPS: In all this don't forget to enjoy life, with all your rage and frustration converted into a rightful crusade, you will be in a position to enjoy life to the fullest while being a staunch crusader... a truth-warrior.

RTI Template for Complaint agaisnt FIL if he is a Govt. Servant

THE RIGHT TO INFORMATION ACT 2005 APPLICATION FOR OBTAINING INFORMATION

 

Date: 

 

To

The Public Information Officer,

PA to District Collector (General)

Collectorate, XXXXX District

CITY - XXXXXX

 

1. Name of the Applicant: XXXXXXXX

 

2. Address with Phone Number:

Address line 1

Address line 2

City, State.

Phone Number: xxxxxxxxxxxx

 

3. Particulars of the Information Required:

I would like to have the following information regarding the complaint made on XXXXXX to District Collector about XXXXXXXX, DESIGNATION, and OFFICE ADDRESS.

1. Departmental enquiry details taken on serving DESIGNATION about his misuse of power and official post to influence police for his family problem.
2. Action taken on threats and atrocities by XXXXXXXX and his uncle retired DSP YYYYYYY to extort money by filing false case on his daughter’s husband family.

4. Details of payment of application fee:

Non-judicial court fee stamp of Rs.10/- is affixed on the top herein above.

Yours faithfully,

 

 

(APPLICANT NAME)

Enclosures:

• Complaint copy sent to District Collector on XXXXXX.
• Acknowledgement copy for the receipt of complaint by Collector Office on XXXXXXX.

File cases for giving dowry

In most of the 498A complaints lodged against husbands it is found that the girl's family says, " We gave X amount of dowry" added with the allegation that it was demanded. However, dowry giving is also an equal crime as per Section 3 of the Dowry Prohibition Act, 1961 as much as abetting it is. Even witnesses give their statements that they saw the dowry being given.

Please remember if there is a case against you and your family for demanding and taking dowry on the basis of the statements given by complainant wife and her well-wishers, then a similar case for giving and abetting also needs to be registered against the complainant wife and her well-wishers for being parties to giving dowry and abetting its exchange.

Some key points to be noted however,

1. Filing a case for "Giving Dowry" against complainant wife and her well-wishers does not mean tacit admission of "Taking Dowry" because there is a difference between giving and taking. For taking to happen, giving is a mandatory condition but the reverse is not true. For all practical purposes the dowry could be offered by dowry givers and the people offered can reject to take it. However, in this case the crime of Dowry Giving and Abetment of Dowry giving has happened and the people involved therein need to be prosecuted for this. 

2. For the 498A cases mentioned, there is prima facie evidence available in the form of "Voluntary Confessional Admission" by the complainant wife and her well-wishers that they gave dowry.

3. Although Section 7 of the Dowry Prohibition Act, 1961 does provide immunity to the complainant against prosecution but remember, that the immunity is available only in that instance of Dowry Prohibition Act, 1961 under which case of "Dowry demand and taking" is running. This means that we cannot arraign the accused in the same case under section 319 of the CrPC. However, nothing stops the husband from filing a new case based on their confessional admission. And in that case the husband (complainant herein) shall be provided the immunity.

Keeping in mind all these points, all the husbands who are facing false allegations of dowry demand and dowry taking against them have a moral bound duty to get the Section 3 of the Dowry Prohibition implemented in its entirety in letter and spirit.

So all dear husbands, rain on the system with complaints that you came to know that you have taken dowry only via the FIR on you and file cases for giving dowry to you as per their own admission. The society shall get back from husbands what it has given them.

Landmark judgement & precautions before file DP3

Posted by: "Sanjay Dhupar" 

Wed Mar 17, 2010 12:06 am (PDT)

Dear all ,
 
On Based upon lot of discussion with my all siffins's friend like Mr Virag , Ajay Reddy , Sukhant , Rajesh , Nitin Dixit and may more.....also some friends from judiciary , please let me note down some points for sucessfull filing DP3 to your sweet wife & cheering FIL , BIL ...so on 
 
1) Read carefully all "affidavit" which are filed against you in any cases.
2) Catch the line , in she write that "Dowary is given via her father,mother, brother so on....."
3) Dont think that above line is sufficent.
4) Keep in cool way & have patience up to cross examination in court.
5) It is the best way to do cross exam her by you not by lawyer to keep her under mental  
    tension.
6) When u cross exam her by smiling face , you should tackle on that way that she will accept all lines what she was saying about dowary given .
7) Now u are in 100 % winning position.
8) Just get the certified copies from court of crss examination
9) Now u file DP3 application to police along with certified statement of her in court and as well as "affidavit" in courts.
10) Poilice definetly do not act properly .
11) Wait for 30 days .
12) File your application to the court under 156(3) and attach supreme court citataion which i provide the link below 
http://www.sendspac e.com/file/ ompnh2

under this citaion , sc says that two FIR  can be launch on same case. If she suppose already file 498A  agianst you this citation help you.
 
So ab to haso aur keep smile & go ahead to win against this legel terrorism  
    
 
 
 
 

http://www.sendspac e.com/file/ ompnh2

Sanjay Dhupar
Ph-0751-4070523, 94253-08423

Retrospective Clause in DV - Strategy

Well guys the retrospectiveness of DV has been a controversial topic of late. And the law being silent about it, the judiciary uses it to its own whims and fancies most of the times which are biased against men. Alleged acts of violence committed prior to 26th Oct 2006, the day the devilish DV law came in effect, are made part of petition and cases are getting registered.
But retrospectiveness in law is a serious issue and allowing retrospective matters in admittance of cases can have serious implications. As technological advances follows Murphy’s rule, newer dangers are also getting exposed and newer legal provisions can also come into effect. What was legal now can be illegal later, so do we book all those persons who committed a hitherto legal, but hence illegal action deemed as offense? Rationally and logically, No.
Coming back to DV, prior to it being enacted, calling names to wives was not an offense and some husband might have called his wife with some name, either out of love and affection or in a fit of anger, which even the wife must have done. But since DV outlines it as an offense only for the husband, allowing retrospective clause in DV law, all wives can book their husbands under DV and 100 % marriages will break. So retrospective clause is not healthy from a social and a futuristic standpoint of legal consideration.
Again arguing that DV does not attract penal consequences and the same arise only when protection order is violated and that offense will not be retrospective, then it must be remembered that in first place, case should not have registered, so no protection order should have been passed. So no possibility of commission of offense if retrospective clause is not defined for DV. But since the court has allowed it, it is also an equal party to the offense and should share the penalty!!! What an absurdity?
http://judis.nic.in/chennai/qrydisp.asp?tfnm=13665
Hence taking a cue from the above judgment and using the aforesaid logic, we can develop a strong petition to challenge retrospectiveness of DV and challenge any such summons under 397 CrPC and bring the case to a halt.

Also specifically,

DV Cannot be used retrospectively

1)SLP(C) No.25219 of 2004 delivered by the Honorble Supreme Court of India where in it was held Penal Statutes (Acts) which create
new offences are always Prospective

2)1993 Crl.J 2636 delivered by Honorble Allahabad High Court where in it was held the accused was acquitted for the offences
punishable u/s 304B as the dowry death took place prior to the commencement of the act 304B.

Domestic Violence Lanmark Judgements

1) Crl.P 3714 of 2007 delivered by the Hon´ble High Court of Andhra Pradesh where in it was held "It is a fundamental principle of law that any penal provision has no retrospective operation but only prospective. There is no allegation either in the report or in the statement or in the complaint on the 1st Respondent with regards to the acts of domestic violence that took place on or after 26-10-2006.Therefor e continuation of proceedings against the petitioners is nothing but abuse of process of court".

2) I (2008) DMC 1 delivered by the Hon´ble Madhya Pradesh High Court held that "" Complaint for this offence can only be filed against adult male person and further held in 3( C ) that as provided by sec 2(q)of the act, such application u/s 12 of the act can´t be filed against petitioner´s who are ladies ".

3) 2007(2) ALT (Crl.) 504(A.P) delivered by the Hon´ble High Court of Andhra Pradesh where in it was held "as there is no claim made against the other respondents, continuing process against them is a clear abuse of law".

4) I (2007) DMC 1 (SC) = 2007(3) ALT (Crl.) 1(SC) delivered by the Hon´ble Supreme Court of India where in it was held"claim for alternative accommodation can only be made against the husband but not to the In-laws".

Legal Position of Bigamy-Adultery Vs 498a Situation: Further explained

Hi Abhi,

If u have taken enough precautions while getting into the 2nd innings, this may help you to get divorce and closure of 498a. Since the 1st will see the vanity in pursuing the cases(if u haven't left any ammunition for her to take up against bigamy- basically leaving proof of 2nd marriage for the 1st to use against you). The 1st could still try poking you with cases of adultery and bigamy but those don't have legal validity(as explained in http://bok498a.blogspot.com/2006/08/impossible-is-nothing-dont-let-your.html )

I would have been in your place but the 1st wife quickly realised that its waste of time not giving me divorce since I had made my 2nd inning plan public, and I got a mutual consented divorce the very next hearing(the divorce case had been dragging for 2+ years till then). The only differences between urs and mine might be that you are in US Iam here, plus the counter cases against them had put them in a tigh spot(they were trying to please me by facilitating a quick 'free' divorce, hoping that I compromised on the counter cases later- which I didnt).

I won't say that this strategy is fool-proof, it could well back fire if the girls family decides to rake up issues by...(let me not give spies in this group some direct ideas). You can see that this strategy is not a one-off thing, when you look at Telugu star Pawan Kalyan's unofficial second marriage, the 1st wife has been unable to hurt him using bigamy, etc.

The moral is that informed risks have a better probability to payback, but the risk takers should be ready to get their hands dirty if they are dragged into another round of court cases. In ur case u r in US, as u correctly gauged "There should be a reason for a Man to come back from US...don't you guyz think so--- "

"Sometimes" 2nd marriages can be more 'strategic' than 'needed/desired' :), even if one is in India. All the best, don't worry life is anyway a battle field, a couple of battles this way or that way shouldn't bother anyone - just do Karma, without seeking the fruits.

regards
Gokul

Re: I got married for the second time........
Posted by: "sureshram" Wed Apr 30, 2008 8:30 pm (PDT)
All the Best.You know there were some of our other members who use go to family court along with the new Women. If fact some got her introduced to the 498a girl.It is the best stratagy to combat 498a girls.I think you have guts and your parents are practical

Wish all the best. Great man

--- In saveindianfamily@ yahoogroups. com, Abhi wrote:

Today..........With my 498A still in the Court.......And with out a Divorce!!Would see if my First Wife(Wolf) can do anything about it!!There should be a reason for a Man to come back from US...don't you guyz thinkso

---Now--my Lawyer is saying that even my 498A will come to an end after the Witch knows about this---the same guy was trying to stop me from getting into thismarriage a week earlier.....I am so sure that even the Witch will come to understand that she has lost forever and ever after this!!
Guyz--Please wish me good luck with my new Wife and Life!!God Bless!!

"IMPOSSIBLE IS NOTHING" Don't let your life stall on anything

What swarup says is right brother shetty, u can have children (like rabbits if u will) , stay together, name them after you and the law will have to just allow u to do so(the lady u decide to live with, just have to stress with anyone that u guys didn't at all have a marriage, and all those rabbits are love-children and that she wished that they carried their biological father's name and surname- who on earth is gonna deny this right of a lover!?).

You just need conviction in your decision, as theres no legal problems.. see this post: http://bok498a.blogspot.com/2008/04/legal-position-of-bigamy-adultery-vs.html (also see two reports about a similar situation of actor Pawan Kalyan).

Bigamy(IPC 494: http://www.vakilno1.com/bareacts/IndianPenalCode/S494.htm) is only if someone can prove that u r married(example: if you are a hindu; as per Hindu Marriage Act)- so don't marry... so no proof of marriage possible....simple, keep/take no photos of any ceremony distantly similar to marriage, or create any marriage record. Just live with ur friend for life, theres a word "companion" gaining respectability in even Indian cities, anyway if u don't care a damn about society, all this is no bodies business. But be wary of IPC 493, which says that if u induce a belief of marriage in a lady, when u are only cohabiting, thats chargeable with IPC 493(http://www.indialawinfo.com/bareacts/ipc.html#_Toc496765386 ,10 years max boss, so be very sure about ur companion!, else its back to battle again, but thats no big deal for u all now, right?;)

As far as Adultery(IPC497: http://www.vakilno1.com/bareacts/IndianPenalCode/S497.htm ) goes: Only a husband can sue a suitor of his wife, if this suitor knows that this lady is married and has no expressed consent of the husband to get close to his wife!- so its funny, its saying wife can't get a husband punsished for adultery(only husband can frame his wife's suitor. not even his wife!), plus this law actually points towards threesomes!!!. So give a F&$K to the law and in-laws and get ahead if it suits you.

Basically it all boils down to your conviction and how afraid u are of society- which never helped or shielded you from harms way when you really needed that(in case u r not convinced that much about ur decision to go ahead and live with ur companion). So y give a damn about the so-called society, show them ur middle finger and walk tall and straight ahead where u wanna go.
Why I explained this in detail is that after 2-3 years most of the elders in the family are worried silly about getting boys(or girls for that matter, but we don't have to empathise with those law misusers, right?) married(to see their grand children play before the end of their days, as the popular concept in India goes). So its important to pacify those worried parents and senior citizens and show courage by taking you life into ur hands, and either decide 1) not to marry(just ensure that u are sufficiently amused and live an interesting life however it suits you- but yes, take care and use protection), 2) not rush to marry, or 3) if u find someone and are fairly confident that shes not the garden-variety-498a-girl(u can't be 1000% sure anyway, but these are the risks u have to assess and own-up) just start ur life dont wait for god to really appear before you- just understand that he has provided with just enough loop holes for u to survive and have a fulfilling life.

So the message is that live the life you want to, don't ever be limited by any restrictions either imagined/imposed by self or projected on to you by others- believe in the infinititude of human mind.... where theres a will, theres a way... period. Come on legal hassles are not Greek and Latin to u guys now, u can in fact be consultants in 498a issues, so do what u wanna do, "IMPOSSIBLE IS NOTHING"(quoting a sports company's catch phrase).

BTW, if someone wants the exact ways and means to proceed as above, I have a "template"(like the advocates have the false 498a complaint template) which can be shared in Private(but guys someone tell me how to create a password protected folder or page in the web, else I will be most probably spending all my time replying to your queries in this regard, so please tell how to password protect a webpage or folder- A word file should work, but any more intelligent solutions, so that it won't be misused much(not worried about this much, since I have stopped fretting about being morally correct and stuff like that) and that I don't get into another soup!... not that I mind it , but for now, I would like to devote 100% of my time to send the misusers packing to where they deserve to be).

I know this realisation would be a great relief and reason for reformation to many. Swarup is one walking talking example of such a guy, and he is not alone , that population is increasing(thanks to the law, we are being made stronger and invincible). I will leave you with a thought provoking and pragmatic quote "The supreme act of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting!" . So live anyway, but fight only if warranted.

Also read this post:

Legal Position of Bigamy-Adultery Vs 498a Situation: Further explained

Post-498a Scenario: When passport is feared of being seized, and person anticipates detention for an unreasonable time

If the husband(or the victim family) is working abroad, and is facing a high profile opponent who is legally terrorising them, with the girl's side having a lot of political or other influence, and has a lot of clout in the system. The bail may be opposed strongly, or after bail they may have to attend police station at frequent interwels or at the will of the police- this itself is a worry- but an application to relax the bail conditions could be the remedy).


The main problems are whether the bail would be denied or whether the passport will be impounded/seized and they will be kept remanded for an unreasonable time(there by affecting ones job) with influence and money power.

See how Mr.Rao had got the passport released from HC andhra(see details in message: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/saveindianfamily/message/19156 ). One could also try emailing Mr.Rao email: rao257 (at) yahoo.com.

But in these kind of cases the real trouble is with the influence and power of the girls side, and to nuetralise the potency of the girl's side influence, one has try and submit petitions(to Authorities right from PM, President to MP,MLA, political party local presidents & other important office holders, similarly with the police authorities from IG to SHO(Station's Senior inspector, clearly mention the police station and Court where ur case is going on in your petitions)) mentioning the boys apprehensions of being detained for an unreasonable time in india with his passport also not being given back, there by affecting/losing his job abroad, etc. etc.

The effect of this kind of petition is not because all those higher officials and authorities care a damn, but that the Station Senior inspector, other police officers involved in the case and DCP of the zone, and the Magistrate(put a copy to the magistrate too, ask your advocate about this) will think twice about yielding to the influence of the girl's side.

But one may have reservations about this strategy, since both the families could have a lot of common friends and 'biradri' folks between them- but what better to do , in this case(or for that matter any other), other than to fight out fully.

This is exactly the same strategy which saved many victims(this was actually advised by a high ranking police officer, so do understand that this is a time-tested and sure-fire strategy)- as this has worked out in the boys favour in cases where the girls side were putting a lot of pressure right from delhi to the local congress committee, etc.- but they are all free and hitting back at the girls side now

The son can avoid coming to India and just be where he is, but the parents Passports also could be seized, and hence they cant visit their son + this 498a case will never be closed until the son comes and faces the legal procedures. Better fight now, sooner or later u will have to either do it or submit to the oppression- this is our frank opinion.

Some references, coutsey to the respective sources(not plaigerism, just info dissemination)

1) http://ipc498a.wordpress.com/2007/04/12/sc-judgment-maneka-gandhi-vs-union-of-india-1978/ ->

SC Judgment: Maneka Gandhi Vs Union Of India (1978)Published April 12th, 2007 :

This will be useful to those of you hounded by a Red Corner Alert or threats of Passport impoundment.
The SC intrepreted this as a case for due process. The article from the Hindu is given below:

http://judis.nic.in/supremecourt/qrydisp.asp?tfnm=5154

The SC kept the passport, but she was given a hearing.
A warning! It is a 144 page judgment.